'All hell will break lose': A notorious market bear who called the dot-com bubble breaks down why stocks are due for volatility resembling 2000 and 2007 as speculation runs rampant — and warns that 'acceptable stock-market returns are screwed' (2024)

At the beginning of his most recent market commentary, John Hussman included an excerpt.

"This is the longest period of practically uninterrupted rise in security prices in our history. The rise was more rapid than has ever been seen, and its speculative attraction influenced a larger part of the public than ever before," it read. "The psychological illusion upon which it was based, though not essentially new, has been stronger and more widespread than has ever been the case in this country in the past."

One might mistake this as a description of today's market environment without batting an eye. But it's actually from the November 2, 1929 issue of The Business Week magazine, published during the midst of the biggest stock market crash in history.

Hussman, the president of the Hussman Investment Trust who called the dot-com bubble over 20 years ago, thinks history is repeating itself. He thinks investors once again believe stock valuations will remain high forever. And he thinks they're once again making a grave mistake.

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Valuations are far extended beyond norms, by many measures. Hussman believes they will eventually come back to their norms, by the law of equilibrium.

In the chart below, Hussman illustrates how high stocks currently are above valuation norms, which he measures by market cap to gross value added and margin-adjusted price-to-earnings ratios.

Hussman Funds

Because Hussman believes valuations will eventually return to norms, he believes stock market returns in the years ahead will be terrible. He said stocks will go "nowhere in an interesting way." Examples of this happening are shown in the above chart. See: 1962-1974 and 1997-2008.

"The moment you look at where starting valuations are, you already know that, in all probability, the prospects for acceptable stock market returns are screwed," he wrote.

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Hussman isn't alone in his critique of valuations. In a note earlier this month, Bank of America Chief US Equity Strategist Savita Subramanian said the bank's model expects annualized returns of 0% for the over the next decade given today's valuations, not including dividends.

Instead of poor returns and big sell-offs, one possibility is that GDP growth and inflation lift valuations back to appropriate levels. But over the next 13 years, to get back to valuation norms, GDP would have to grow by 10% annually or inflation would have to rise over 8% annually — both are highly, highly unlikely.

Hussman also railed against the Federal Reserve and its role in propping up markets through easy monetary policy. He believes investors and the Fed itself have bought into a narrative that the central bank's support props up stocks by necessity through its quantitative easing. But that narrative will end eventually, he said, causing chaos.

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"The Fed has become almost entirely reliant on a narrative that its actions 'support' the financial markets," he wrote. "When that narrative breaks – because it is in fact a narrative, not a mechanistic relationship – all hell will break loose, as it did in 2000-2002 and 2007-2009 despite persistent Fed easing."

Hussman's track record — and his views in context

There is a camp on Wall Street that also believes stocks are too extended at the moment.

Stifel's Chief US Equity Strategist Barry Bannister said this week that he expects a 10% correction this quarter, triggered by monetary tightening around the world. He also pointed to the absurdity of the 97% gain the S&P 500 has seen over the last 18 months.

"Excluding dividends, the price of the market doubles every 10 years," Bannister told Insider.

Bannister's end-of-year S&P 500 price target of 4,000 matches those of the top strategists at Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, and BTIG. The 4,000 mark would be a nearly 12% pullback from current levels around 4,545.

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Other strategists on Wall Street think stocks have a bit of room to run. The most bullish among them are Wells Fargo's Chris Harvey at 4,825 and Bank of Montreal's Brian Belski at 4,800. Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, and Oppenheimer all have their targets at 4,700.

But beyond this year, it is difficult to tell where stocks will go, with uncertainty remaining around how transient inflation will be and how exactly the Fed will handle its monetary policy, potentially under a new chair. There is also uncertainty around the state of the economy, with job growth slowing, inflation rising, and industrial production slowing down, but spending remaining strong.

'All hell will break lose': A notorious market bear who called the dot-com bubble breaks down why stocks are due for volatility resembling 2000 and 2007 as speculation runs rampant — and warns that 'acceptable stock-market returns are screwed' (2)

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For the uninitiated, Hussman has repeatedly made headlines by predictinga stock-market decline exceeding 60%and forecasting afull decade of negative equity returns. And as the stock market has continued to grind mostly higher, he's persisted with his doomsday calls.

But before you dismiss Hussman as a wonky perma-bear, consider his track record, which he broke down in a recent blog post. Here are the arguments he lays out:

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  • He predicted in March 2000 that tech stocks would plunge 83%, then the tech-heavy Nasdaq 100 index lost an "improbably precise" 83% during a period from 2000 to 2002.
  • Predicted in 2000 that the S&P 500 would likely see negative total returns over the following decade, which it did.
  • Predicted in April 2007 that the S&P 500 could lose 40%, then it lost 55% in the subsequent collapse from 2007 to 2009.

However, Hussman's recent returns have been less-than-stellar. His Strategic Growth Fund is down about 48% since December 2010, though it's risen 2.2% in the past year. Still, the S&P 500 has returned more than 31% over the same period.

The amount of bearish evidence being unearthed by Hussman continues to mount. Sure, there may still be returns to be realized in this market cycle, but at what point does the mounting risk of a crash become too unbearable?

That's a question investors will have to answer themselves — and one that Hussman will clearly keep exploring in the interim.

'All hell will break lose': A notorious market bear who called the dot-com bubble breaks down why stocks are due for volatility resembling 2000 and 2007 as speculation runs rampant — and warns that 'acceptable stock-market returns are screwed' (2024)

FAQs

Do you lose all your money if the stock market crashes? ›

While it appears that you're losing money during a market crash, in reality, it's just your stocks losing value. For example, say you buy 10 shares of a stock priced at $100 per share, so your total account balance is $1,000. If that stock price drops to $80 per share, those shares are now only worth $800.

What was the biggest stock market crash in history? ›

Black Monday: Oct.

The 1987 stock market crash, or Black Monday, is known for being the largest single-day percentage decline in U.S. stock market history. On Oct. 19, the Dow fell 22.6 percent, a shocking drop of 508 points.

Why did the stock market crash in 2002? ›

The September 11 attacks accelerated the stock-market drop. Investor confidence was further eroded by several accounting scandals and the resulting bankruptcies, including the Enron scandal in October 2001, the WorldCom scandal in June 2002, and the Adelphia Communications Corporation scandal in July 2002.

What is the largest market correction in history? ›

  1. The Panic of 1907. ...
  2. Wall Street Crash of 1929. ...
  3. 'Black Monday' Crash of 1987. ...
  4. Japanese Asset Bubble Burst of 1992. ...
  5. Asia Financial Crash of 1997. ...
  6. Dot-Com Bubble Burst of 2000. ...
  7. Subprime Mortgage Crisis of 2007-08. ...
  8. The COVID-19 Crash of 2020.
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Can you permanently lose money in stocks? ›

To summarize, yes, a stock can lose its entire value.

Is my money safe if the stock market crashes? ›

Investing exclusively in stocks can cause you to lose a significant amount of money if the market crashes. To hedge against losses, investors strategically make other investments to spread out their exposure and reduce their overall risks.

Will the US stock market crash in 2024? ›

While many experts are making predictions about whether the market will crash in 2024 or how severe the next downturn will be, it's impossible to say with certainty where stock prices will be in the short term. However, the market's long-term performance is all but guaranteed to be positive.

What president had the largest stock market gain? ›

And the shocking leader of the bunch? President Calvin Coolidge, who took office in 1923, whose stock price performance change was a whopping 208.52%, for an average monthly return of 1.74%. That's the largest for any president since the start of the 20th century.

What stock went up 1000 percent in a day? ›

Even so, the gains posted by Ambrx Biopharma (AMAM) in Friday's session are unusual and particularly eye-catching. The stock soared to the tune of a hardly believable 1007% after the company announced pleasing results from the mid-stage testing of its breast cancer drug ARX788.

What was the worst day in the stock market history? ›

Some sources (including the file Highlights/Lowlights of The Dow on the Dow Jones website) show a loss of −24.39% (from 71.42 to 54.00) on December 12, 1914, placing that day atop the list of largest percentage losses.

What is the highest the Dow Jones has ever been? ›

41,198.08

What triggered the dot-com crash? ›

These companies had high valuations with little to no profits, riding the wave and hype of the new tech. A booming equity market funded them in the 1990s, which came with cheap capital. When the money dried up, and these companies had no self-sustaining profits to continue operating, the crash finally came.

What was the biggest crash in history? ›

The worst stock market crash happened in 1929. It produced the largest decline from top to bottom (89%) and was a catalyst for the Great Depression. On a percentage basis, the worst day in stock market history was on October 19, 1987. The S&P 500 plunged 20.5% while the Dow cratered 22.6%.

What was the biggest market decline in history? ›

Table
NameDateCountry
Wall Street Crash of 192924 Oct 1929USA
Recession of 1937–19381937USA
Kennedy Slide of 196228 May 1962USA
Brazilian Markets Crash of 1971Jul 1971Brazil
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What happens if the stock market crashes? ›

Sometimes, however, the economy turns or an asset bubble pops—in which case, markets crash. Investors who experience a crash can lose money if they sell their positions, instead of waiting it out for a rise. Those who have purchased stock on margin may be forced to liquidate at a loss due to margin calls.

Who gets all the money when the stock market crashes? ›

A decrease in implicit value, for instance, leaves the owners of the stock with a loss in value because their asset is now worth less than its original price. Again, no one else necessarily receives the money; it simply vanishes due to investors' perceptions.

Do I lose money if my stock goes down? ›

If the value of your stock decreases, you will not owe money. You will only owe money on stocks if you used borrowed money to purchase them and they happened to decrease in value.

Do 90% of people lose money in the stock market? ›

About 90% of investors lose money trading stocks. That's 9 out of every 10 people — both newbies and seasoned professionals — losing their hard earned dollars by trying to outsmart an unpredictable and extremely volatile machine.

What to do when you lose all your money in the stock market? ›

The Investor's Recovery Plan: What to Do If You've Lost Money in the Stock Market
  1. Recognize When It's Really a Loss. ...
  2. Go Easy on Yourself. ...
  3. Avoid Tax Mistakes. ...
  4. Cut Losses Short. ...
  5. Invest Again. ...
  6. Diversify Your Portfolio. ...
  7. Seeking Help When You've Lost Money in the Stock Market.
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