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UltimateBossTimmie·7/14/2021in General
I personally think Zhongli is the strongest out of Baal and Venti just cause of his feats but who do you guys think does Baal compete or absolutely destroy Zhongli and Venti?
VentiZhongliGodEi
XBunniix·7/14/2021
Tsaritsa she might soon get her hands on Baals gnosis
Lol
Infernalized·7/14/2021
In a logical sense you would say Tsaritsa, but hey who knows maybe she's garbage at fighting. Arguably of the current Archons that are known to us right now, I'd say Morax is still the strongest even if the tsaritsa does have 2 more gnosises. I just don't think if the Tsaritsa was very strong that she would go so low as to steal her other fellow gods' source of power.
Bobaxtea·7/14/2021
I mean like, if she also puts the other Gnosis in her (if that's possible) she might be the strongest archon?
Before the tsritsa started taking gnoseses i wold have said Baal
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Genshinlore·8/29/2021
Zhongli it’s canon that he’s the strongest archon not the Tsaritsa the gnosis’s she has collected give her no special powers expect for example, Zhongli’s gnosis gave him the power to create mora and that’s it all she gets is the ability to create mora. Zhongli ,Tsaritsa, and Venti are the only archons we know are against Celestia. Which why Zhongli gave up his gnosis cause the gnosis is the connect to Celestia. Celestia gets weaker every time a archon loses it gnosis or gives it up. Zhongli and Venti are the only 2 left of the original 7 so that makes Zhongli a lot stronger than the 7.
RKsinghking77·9/3/2021
Obviously zhongli, baal and murata hold nothing on him. And gnosis just gives the power they get, so not zhongli actual strength but his ability to generate mora, so i don't think the tsaritsa would be as powerful as him. However, i do believe that zhongli himself states tha the dendro archon is prodigy and may have the makings to turn stronger than him in a few thousand years or so
Astolfo12333·9/5/2021
Where does it say Zhongli is the strongest archon? Also SPOILERS FOR NEW ARCHON QUEST. Ei gave up her gnosis cause she had no use for it 500 years ago
Kenichi783·10/5/2021
Well, a gnosis does affect an archon's power. Zhongli's voice-lines explicitly state that he lost a major portion of his power due to handing over his gnosis. He also got weakened over time due to erosion. The same theory however does not apply to Beelzebul (Raiden) as she spent her time in the plane of euthymia in order nullify the erosion and conserve her power. Also, an archon's strength is directly proportionate to the amount of control they have over their nation and the faith people put it them. Based on these we can easily say that as of now,
Beelzebul>Zhongli>Venti
Charlie488·5/7/2022
I think Zhongli was the strongest during the archon war and before he handed down his gnosis... his voiceline says a lot about that... Venti was is the weakest of the seven... Ei on the other hand is still mighty powerful, and also ive seen some say her sister was more powerful than her but thats not the case if youve done her 2nd story questyou can see what im saying, Baals strong point was her ability to communicate, and Ei only came forthin the time of battles... kusanali is the god of flower so i dont think she will be rather strong and she also isn't the original. the hydro archon is the god of justice but there is no source that tell us about his/her strength. the pyro archon murata on the other hand is the god of war, i think she is very powerful being the god of war itself... ive heard the cryo archon was the archon of love but later she changed her motto, but she now has 4 gnosis tho, so she may very powerful and im also curious to see if she can control 4 elements(7 if her planning goes right) or not. But she may not be as powerful as i think, bcz she is like a queen(thats what tsaritsa literally means) doing all the corporate work and all not doing any fights or anything... and also she aint the original.
I think its a close battle between Ei, Zhongli and Murata. Ei is brute force, john lee has the most experience and is still mighty powerful and murata is literally the god of war)
