“What In The World?”: This Couple With $1,000,000 In Debt Calls Into A Finance Show, Leaves Everyone Including The Host Speechless (2024)

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American household debt hit a record $16.9 trillion at the end of 2022, according to the Federal Reserve data. If you had to write that check, it would read $16,960,000,000,000. Yep, it somewhat resembles a phone number.

$11.92 trillion is owed on mortgages, while car loan debts make up $1.55 trillion, making it slightly less than student loans, which equal $1.60 trillion. Now, credit card debts surpassed the pre-pandemic high of $927 billion with people owing a whopping $986 billion.

This viral video shared on the TikTok channel of Dave Ramsey, the famous personal finance personality, serves as a real-life testimony of the state of American debt.

The video clip taken from Ramsey’s radio program shows a 29-year-old woman calling in to ask for advice for dealing with a spine-chilling debt of $1,000,000. The video has since gone viral, amassing an impressive 22.6M views on the platform, leaving people on social media just as stunned as Ramsey himself.

A 29-year-old woman called in to Dave Ramsey’s show for advice on tackling a $1,000,000 debt she shared with her husband, leaving people speechless

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– The caller: We have probably just under a million dollars in debt and we wanna know how to get debt-free without filing for bankruptcy.

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– Dave Ramsey: Okay. How much of that is your mortgage?

– Uh, the mortgage is about $210,000.

– So you have $600,000 in what?

– $335,000 is about in student loans. We both have advanced degrees, and then a lot, the rest is really credit cards and personal loans.

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– So you have $300,000 of credit cards and personal loans?

– We have about $335,000 in student loans and then about $136,000 in credit cards, $44,000 personal loans, and $35,000 car loans.

– Okay. Um, how old are you?

– I’m 29.

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– Okay. So what in the world?

– So, yeah, so we, uh…

– I mean, are you both on this or is this just one of you that’s completely lost your mind?

– Well, I have the majority of the student loans and he has the majority of the credit cards. My credit card debt is not great…

– Okay. So why has he, at 29 years old, run up a hundred grand in credit card debt?

– Well, he’s 32, but I think it’s one of those things where just making really poor financial decisions, thinking you’ll be able to pay it down as you go and then it doesn’t happen.

– Yeah. Okay. So you both have advanced degrees. What are your degrees in?

– We do. Both of ours are advanced degrees. No, he has an MBA and I have an advanced degree in Policy. I work in the government. We actually both do now at this point, actually.

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– Okay. So your household income is?

– Our household income is about $230,000.

– Okay. All right. Is there recognition on both of your parts how absurd this situation is?

– Uh, yes. Yes, there is. So I think we’re both scared and wanna do anything we can to avoid bankruptcy.

– Okay, great. Then I’m on your team. I can skip that step. Okay, good. Well, you’re scared and you should be. You’re disgusted and you should be.

– We are.

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– You’re in the early stages of being sick and tired of being sick and tired, and you should be. Here’s the thing. You guys have been living at, across the board from your education choices to your car purchases, to your whatever, you’ve been living at about 10x where you’re gonna get to live for the next three years.

– Okay. Yep, that’s true.

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– So I’m getting ready to destroy your life as you know it because your lifestyle is considerably above your extremely good income and has been for a period of time. And so you’ve gotten used to spending like you’re in Congress, right? This is gonna be very emotional for y’all, and you’re gonna have to look at it through that lens and through a spiritual lens, or you’re not gonna make it. You’re gonna have to not care what anyone thinks, including each other, because you’re not gonna spend any money on anything ever, for the next three years.

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Dave Ramsey shared the clip on his TikTok channel, amassing a whopping 22.6M views

@daveramsey This couple is a million dollars in debt. #moneytok #broke #debt #debtpayoff #nomoney #studentloans #creditcarddebt ♬ original sound – Dave Ramsey

In this longer video, the host explained just how humbling the following years are going to be for the couple

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– Let’s pretend you’re making $210,000, and I know you just got married, but let’s pretend you’ve been doing this as a couple as you went along. You’ve been making $210,000 and spending $310,000. I’m getting ready to put you on $30,00. You’re not gonna see the inside of a restaurant unless it’s your extra job or you’re waiting on some of the people you work with during the day. This is how humbling it’s gonna be. It’s gonna crush a lot of cr*p in your soul that caused you to do this. So the bad news is it’s gonna be really rough. The good news is it’s gonna be great for you guys relationally, spiritually, and financially.

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But you’re not gonna make the financial unless you make the relational and the spiritual move. Because I know that. I know you guys ’cause I was you guys. This is exactly what I did in my twenties. I bought and purchased a lifestyle that was 5x to 10x what I had. And it was all because of cr*p inside of me that caused me to do that. And all of that has to be destroyed to fix it.

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– Absolutely.

– Is this making any sense or is this too brutal?

– No, it’s making a lot of sense and it’s brutal.

– I’m warning you what’s coming, okay. This is not a math problem. The math problem is the symptom. The problem is what’s going on inside of you guys. So the great news is you’re very smart people. And if you apply that intellect to solving this problem as if it were a policy problem or a business problem, you can solve the problem. But the lens by which the problem will be solved is through spiritual contentment. Godliness with contentment is a great gain. Translation: You’re gonna pull up at a stoplight driving a piece of cr*p car next to people that have an income a fourth of yours and have a nicer car than yours. And you’re not gonna care. That’s gonna be the cool part. You’re gonna reach the point you don’t care what other people think. And that might be a far journey for you or him, I don’t know which one it is, but one of you guys has been purchasing a lot of stuff for a lot of reasons that are gonna change. They have to. They have to because you’re on a suicide mission right now.

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– What’s the home worth?

– Let’s see, according to Zillow, the home is worth about $300,000.

– Okay, so you have a little bit of equity there, but not enough to save you. I always say that the home is the last resort, unless it’s the problem and it’s not the problem. Ratio-wise, it’s nothing compared to this other stuff. I mean, you have $330,000 in student loan debt, $200,000 on your house. It’s not the problem, you know, when the credit cards are almost as much as the stinkin’ house. So I don’t think we gotta sell it. You probably may need to sell a car. The big thing is, is just this shock to the system of your lifestyle where you go from really living what we call in Tennessee ‘high on the hog’ to you’re gonna be living ‘beans and rice, rice and beans’. Your friends are gonna think you’ve lost your mind and your mother’s gonna think you need counseling.

– We actually live with my parents now. After we got married we offered to stay with them to help us with transitioning to the new life which has definitely been helpful renting out the condo.

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Bored Panda reached out to Jan Miller, a student loan consultant and the president of Miller Student Loan Consulting, LLC to ask whether there’s a way to resolve a $1,000,000 debt without filing for bankruptcy. Miller told us that there are indeed other ways to sort out this amount of debt, though bankruptcy should still be considered as a partial solution.

“Starting with student loans, and as it relates to the video referenced, this is likely the easy part for these borrowers, relatively speaking,” Miller explained. “Making the assumption that they work directly for the government, as stated in the video, and the assumption that a majority of their debt consists of federal student loans, both husband and wife likely qualify for total student loan forgiveness under the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program,” he added.

Having said that, Miller noted that “this program will still require them both to make a combined payment of up to $1,600/mo to complete the 10-year requirement of the program before the loans are forgiven, but then the rest of the federal debt will be forgiven tax-free.”

According to him, despite what borrowers may hear, this is a reliable program which has forgiven hundreds of millions of dollars of debt in 2022 alone.

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“What In The World?”: This Couple With $1,000,000 In Debt Calls Into A Finance Show, Leaves Everyone Including The Host Speechless (2024)

FAQs

How billionaires use debt to stay rich? ›

For example, very rich people might borrow money to acquire a company if they think they can improve its profitability. They might also borrow to fund a startup business, or use margin in their brokerage account to invest in more assets that will help them build wealth.

How many people has Dave Ramsey helped out of debt? ›

More than 25 years ago, Dave Ramsey fought his way out of bankruptcy and millions of dollars of debt. He took what he learned and started teaching people God's and Grandma's ways of handling money. Since then, Financial Peace University has helped nearly 10 million people take control of their money for good.

How much debt does the average 65 year old have? ›

How Many Seniors Are in Debt? In 2022, the average debt of consumers aged 65 to 74 was $134,950, according to the latest Federal Reserve data, compared to $94,620 for those 75 and older.

What is the average credit card debt for seniors? ›

In households headed by someone age 75+, that percentage rose by 18 points during the same period, from 10 to 28. And the median amount of credit card debt for each group now tops $2,850 and $2,700, respectively.

Where do most billionaires put their money? ›

Billionaires' wealth is concentrated in company stock, and their companies' value lies mostly in ideas and processes, not cash and physical property. The economy depends on some people having more than they need to consume, as their investments of capital fund business operations and private lending.

Do billionaires use cash? ›

Cash and cash equivalents are common places where billionaires keep of some their money. Though not often thought of as an investment, cash is a liquid asset, meaning you can use it in a variety of ways as needs or desires arise.

Do you pay taxes on borrowed money? ›

Key takeaways

Since lenders require you to repay a personal loan, they are considered debt and not taxable income. If a lender forgives some or all of the loan, you may have to pay taxes on the forgiven loan amount.

Why does Ramsey hate debt? ›

This is what Dave Ramsey had to say about debt

Ramsey has made it clear that he doesn't think there's ever a reason to borrow because of the financial danger that being in debt presents. "Debt always equals risk, and it's always dumb," he said.

How does Dave Ramsey recommend paying off debt? ›

Ramsey's preferred debt payoff method is the debt snowball method. This strategy entails listing all your debts from the smallest to the largest balance, ignoring interest rates. From there, you'll pay the minimums due on all but the smallest debt, which you'll start paying aggressively until it's gone.

How much is the average person in debt for? ›

Average American Debt Load

That breaks down into $241,815 on average in mortgage debt, and an average of $23,317 in non-mortgage debt (including credit card, student loan, auto loan and personal loan debt). But these debt balances vary greatly depending on age group.

What is too much personal debt? ›

Debt-to-income ratio is your monthly debt obligations compared to your gross monthly income (before taxes), expressed as a percentage. A good debt-to-income ratio is less than or equal to 36%. Any debt-to-income ratio above 43% is considered to be too much debt.

What does the average person have in debt? ›

Average American Debt Load

That breaks down into $241,815 on average in mortgage debt, and an average of $23,317 in non-mortgage debt (including credit card, student loan, auto loan and personal loan debt). But these debt balances vary greatly depending on age group.

What is considered a lot of debt? ›

Generally speaking, a good debt-to-income ratio is anything less than or equal to 36%. Meanwhile, any ratio above 43% is considered too high. The biggest piece of your DTI ratio pie is bound to be your monthly mortgage payment.

How much credit card debt is normal? ›

On an individual level, the overall average balance is around $6,501, per Experian's data. Other generations' credit card debt falls closer to that average or below. Here's the average amount of credit card debt Americans hold by age as of the third quarter of 2023, according to Experian.

Is 70k debt a lot? ›

What is considered a lot of student loan debt? A lot of student loan debt is more than you can afford to repay after graduation. For many, this means having more than $70,000 – $100,000 in total student debt.

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