Roth 401(k) vs Roth IRA - Eggstack (2024)

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Roth 401(k) vs Roth IRA

written by Mike Ballew|November 24, 2019

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When it comes to a head-to-head matchup between a Roth 401(k) and a Roth IRA, there’s really no competition. It’s an 18-wheeler vs. a Smart Car. It's the Biltmore compared to a doll house. The New England Patriots vs. St. Francis of Assisi Convent. The Roth 401(k) has no income restrictions and significantly higher contribution limits; it crushes the Roth IRA.

Let’s look at Roth IRA income limits. Singles earning more than $161,000 and married couples with a combined income greater than $240,000 are ineligible for Roth IRAs. So are married individuals earning more than $10,000 who file their taxes separately.

You have to ask, what was the IRS thinking when they made up that last rule? If somebody is making $10,000 a year, are they really going to invest in a Roth IRA? What does that even look like? “Hmmm, let’s see. Get a Roth IRA and starve to death, or keep living? What to do, what to do?"

The other advantage of a Roth 401(k) over a Roth IRA is much higher contribution limits. With a Roth IRA, you can only contribute $7,000 per year ($8,000 for those age 50 and older). The contribution limit for a Roth 401(k) is $23,000 per year ($30,500 for those age 50 and up) – the same as a traditional 401(k). There is just no getting around it, a Roth 401(k) is [choose your decade]:

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1950s: Nifty!
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1970s: Far out!
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1990s: Fly!
2000s: Sweet!
2010s: Cool!

The Taxman on Steroids

If you think taxes are bad now, just wait. They could get a whole lot worse. A day of reckoning is coming when we will be held to account for the financial sins of our forefathers. We’re talking about the national debt, which as you can see at U.S. National Debt Clock is completely out of control.

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Pay Me Now or Pay Me Later

The primary difference between a traditional 401(k) and a Roth 401(k) is when income taxes are paid. With a traditional 401(k), you don’t pay any tax on contributions made to the plan. Then when you use the money in retirement, you have to pay tax on both your original contributions and any investment growth.

A Roth 401(k) works exactly the opposite. You pay tax on plan contributions, then when you use the money in retirement, you don’t have to pay tax on your original contributions or the investment growth. It’s tax-free growth! Such beautiful words have not been uttered since “free beer!"

Converting a Traditional 401(k) to a Roth 401(k)

While it is possible to convert an existing traditional 401(k) into a Roth 401(k), it is not necessarily a good idea. You have never paid income tax on the money that you contributed to a traditional 401(k). If you convert it to a Roth 401(k), you will owe taxes on the entire amount at the time of conversion. For example, let’s say you’re in the 22% tax bracket and you have $100,000 in a traditional 401(k). If you convert it to a Roth 401(k), you will owe $22,000* in taxes. It doesn’t come with a convenient monthly payment plan. The payment plan is get out your pocketbook and write a check for $22,000. It could even bump you into a higher tax bracket, in which case you would owe even more taxes.

Paying the $22,000 tax bill out of the newly-converted Roth 401(k) would be a bad idea. Your nest egg might never recover from that kind of hit. You would miss out on too much compound investment returns to be worth it.

The best path forward is likely to leave your traditional 401(k) plan as is and start a new Roth 401(k). You can have both. Let your traditional plan continue to grow while shifting all your contributions to the Roth 401(k). Your employer will continue to provide matching contributions.

Last Call

If your employer offers a Roth 401(k), you owe it to yourself to check it out. Putting your money in a Roth 401(k) could pay off handsomely when you retire. While your retired friends are complaining about all the taxes they have to pay, you can chuckle and say you don’t pay any taxes.

*Approximate figure, actual amount would be less based on effective tax rate.

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Roth 401(k) vs Roth IRA - Eggstack (2024)

FAQs

Is a Roth 401k better than a Roth IRA? ›

"Saving in a Roth 401(k) could be a better way to go if the taxes on a Roth IRA conversion are prohibitive." Higher contribution limits: In 2023, you can stash away up to $22,500 in a Roth 401(k)—$30,000 if you're age 50 or older.

Is there a downside to Roth 401k? ›

The list of cons may be short for Roth 401(k)s, but missing tax deferral is a big one. When faced with a choice of paying more tax now or later, most people choose to pay later, hence the low participation rates for Roth 401(k)s.

What is one main difference between a 401 K and a Roth IRA? ›

You fund Roth IRAs with after-tax income, meaning your withdrawals are not taxable retirement income. Conversely, you fund 401(k)s with pre-tax income. This makes your 401(k) withdrawals subject to taxation in retirement.

Does Roth 401k count towards Roth IRA limit? ›

The contribution limits are the same for Roth and traditional versions of 401(k)s and IRAs. One financial strategy, for those who want to maximize their tax-advantaged savings: Open both types of Roth accounts. You can invest up to the combined allowable limits in a Roth 401(k) and a Roth IRA.

Should you max out a Roth IRA or 401k first? ›

In fact, here's how we recommend you split up your retirement investing based on the type of 401(k) you have: Traditional 401(k): Invest up to the employer match. Then max out a Roth IRA. Your first goal is to invest 15% of your income.

Is a Roth 401k better than a 401k for high income earners? ›

Roth 401(k)s are funded with after-tax money that you can withdraw tax-free once you reach retirement age. A traditional 401(k) allows you to make contributions before taxes, but you'll pay income tax on the distributions in retirement.

What is the 5 year rule for Roth 401k? ›

No, if you have not held the account for more than 5 years or if the distribution is not made after death, disability, or age 59 ½, then the distribution is not a qualified distribution. However, you could roll the distribution over into a designated Roth account in another plan or into your Roth IRA.

Should I convert my Roth 401k to a Roth IRA? ›

Transferring to a Roth IRA is generally the most desirable option because it facilitates a wider range of investment options. It's best to move the money into an existing Roth IRA account if you have one because of a five-year rule that governs qualified distributions.

What income level should you not do a Roth 401k? ›

No income limitation to participate. Aggregate* employee elective contributions limited to $23,000 in 2024; $22,500 in 2023; $20,500 in 2022; $19,500 in 2021 (plus an additional $6,500 in 2022 and 2021 for employees age 50 or over; additional $7,500 in 2023 and 2024 for employees age 50 or over).

Do I need to report my Roth 401k on taxes? ›

However, the Roth 401(k) earnings aren't taxable if you keep them in the account until you're 59 1/2 and you've had the account for five years. Unlike a tax-deferred 401(k), contributions to a Roth 401(k) do not reduce your taxable income now when they are subtracted from your paycheck.

Should I do a solo 401k or Roth IRA? ›

While the Roth IRA is more accessible than a Roth solo 401k, it comes with a much lower contribution limit. In fact, a Roth solo 401k has a limit three times larger than a Roth IRA. The contribution limit for a Roth solo 401k is $22,500 ($30,000 if age 50+) for 2023 and $23,000 ($30,500 if age 50+) for 2024.

Is a Roth 401k pre-tax? ›

When you make Roth contributios to a 401(k) plan, your contributions are made after taxes, meaning you can't deduct them to reduce your taxable income, nor do they come out of your paycheck before taxes. The good news is that if used correctly, once the funds are in your 401(k), you'll never pay taxes on them again.

Can I have both a Roth 401k and a Roth IRA? ›

Yes, you can have both a Roth 401(k) and a Roth IRA. Keep in mind the contribution limits for each account. If you receive a Roth 401(k) option through your employer, here's one strategy to consider: contribute enough money to your Roth 401(k) to receive the company match.

What is backdoor Roth IRA? ›

A backdoor Roth IRA is a conversion that allows high earners to open a Roth IRA despite IRS-imposed income limits. Basically, you put money you've already paid taxes on in a traditional IRA, then convert your contributed money into a Roth IRA, and you're done.

Should I split my 401k contribution between Roth and traditional? ›

Should You Split Contributions Between a Roth and Traditional Account? Splitting contributions between a Roth and traditional account can allow you to get some tax benefit today while hedging somewhat against higher tax rates in the future.

Does a Roth 401k reduce taxable income? ›

Unlike a tax-deferred 401(k), contributions to a Roth 401(k) do not reduce your taxable income now when they are subtracted from your paycheck. Contributions to a Roth 401(k) are after-tax contributions.

Should I put my 401k into a Roth IRA? ›

Should I Convert my 401(k) to a Roth IRA? Converting a 401(k) to a Roth IRA may make sense if you believe that you'll be in a higher tax bracket in the future, as withdrawals are tax free. But you'll owe taxes in the year when the conversion takes place.

What is the downside of Roth? ›

No immediate tax break

You have to wait longer for the tax-savings payoff with a Roth IRA versus a traditional IRA. You pay taxes on the money before it goes into the account, meaning no tax deduction.

Is Roth IRA actually better? ›

Consider a Roth IRA

In general, if you think you'll be in a higher tax bracket when you retire, a Roth IRA may be the better choice. You'll pay taxes now, at a lower rate, and withdraw funds tax-free in retirement when you're in a higher tax bracket.

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